00:11Wipe everything now.
00:12Do you know what they do to people like me in jail?
00:17No, do not let them in!
00:21Now I'm offering you a lifeline.
00:24You know I'd never rat on you.
00:29You can spend millions on security, but at the end of the day, people are stupid.
00:40But it's interesting because, I mean, it's great to see a heist thriller done like this because it's a heist
00:45thriller for the modern era.
00:46But it has the different personalities.
00:49Obviously, Kyle is the mastermind.
00:52You're the troll.
00:53You know, Petey is, you know, the brains.
00:55I mean, there's all different kinds of things, but it's interesting.
00:57How much did you try to key into the personality in the performance of what you were doing?
01:03Because, Sid, you have these great moments where you're just going completely out there and that Kyle's trying to bring
01:09you, you know, George is trying to bring you as Kyle back.
01:13Can you talk about that energy?
01:15Because you're doing it through a screen, which is different than real life, to be very honest.
01:20Like a hundred percent.
01:22I think that's why it was so important, like, or how what I found really helped, you know, doing this
01:31movie, especially with doing it with Ronan, is that me and Roman sort of became pretty close on set.
01:36And we sort of, you know, had a great bond sort of off of set.
01:40So by the time that we, you know, especially sort of later on in that movie where it comes to
01:44that scene with Sid and Kyle, you know, like right at the sort of end of the movie, the third
01:51act.
01:52That felt, you know, so, so like I was just chatting to my friend, you know, because we sort of
02:01had gotten to know each other at that point.
02:03And in terms of the character stuff from Kyle, I remember a big sort of thing was, you know, Ocean's
02:10Eleven and Catch Me If You Can.
02:12And so I was thinking about, you know, the George Clooney character and the Leonardo DiCaprio character.
02:17Listen, what these what these guys do, especially Kyle, is, you know, unexcusable.
02:22It's only not, you know, the way to do, you know, it's a terrible they do terrible things.
02:29For me, the one, I guess, slightly redeeming thing about Kyle that I kept coming back to was, you know,
02:37he's loyal to his friends and he wants, you know, after all, you know, he wants to be loyal to
02:43them.
02:43And so that's what I tried to, if there was some moral compass within him, you know, I can see
02:51the headlines now.
02:53Incel, blackmails, billionaire's daughter.
02:58Who's dumb enough to flex about having Bitcoin?
03:01What are you going to do? Steal them.
03:03You want to go to Stanford, right?
03:04Yeah.
03:05So why leave it to chance?
03:07I get the fees in and out.
03:09Let's do this.
03:14Where would we even start?
03:17Doll hurts daughter.
03:19She posts everything.
03:22So a little fish will do the trick.
03:25Oh, come on.
03:27Do it.
03:30I love money.
03:34You have no idea who you were stealing from.
03:37Perception and perspective is such a big thing in the screen life world.
03:43Ronan, could you sort of first talk about using that perspective and perception?
03:47Because it's mostly going from Kyle's perspective.
03:50I guess the concept of the film was always like Ocean's Eleven on a Discord server.
03:54I'm like, I grew up gaming.
03:57I grew up kind of in those spaces.
03:59And beyond being a big fun heist film, we really wanted to capture that kind of period
04:03in my life and lots of other teenagers' lives where they're, you know, gaming with their
04:08friends from like 6pm to 6am.
04:12And yeah, so like Kyle was like kind of trying to put yourself in the head of that teenager.
04:17And like the really cool thing about these spaces is like there is so much brine that
04:21happens and mythology around this where, yeah, like there's these little teenage suburban
04:26kids, but there are these stories of them, certain kids stealing hundreds of millions
04:31in crypto scams and breaking into like the Microsoft offices to steal like the earlier
04:37version, earliest versions of like the Xbox or, and so like they kind of everything that
04:43was like the fuel for the fire when we were like finding out about all these true stories.
04:47And yeah, the film kind of spiraled from there.
04:50You reach him.
04:51You can f*** him even more.
04:53It's a little, little toxic.
04:55Darling, yeah.
04:56Okay.
04:56That's okay.
04:57I'm done.
04:58All right, just f***ing wait outside for Alex, okay?
05:01You shitty song closes.
05:09Guys.
05:12Relax, relax.
05:13You're in the clear, okay?
05:14I forgot the USB.
05:16No, you didn't.
05:17No, you f***ing didn't.
05:18What?
05:19You didn't.
05:19We can't go back.
05:20We're getting it for us.
05:21No, no, no, no.
05:22Alex, Alex, do not go through it.
05:23Get hold of that USB.
05:25Everything can be traced back to us.
05:26A film like this is probably such a technical challenge, especially sometimes when you're
05:31on a physical set while interacting.
05:34Could you sort of talk about sort of that mindset?
05:38Because you have to have a pace to it, but there's so many things going on.
05:41Can you talk about it from your perspective, the psychology of that?
05:45Yeah, I think like there was a sense of kind of chaos and improvisation in the whole thing,
05:51not just with dialogue.
05:52But like I was a bit separate to like the gang that were on their laptops because a lot,
05:58like I entered the film on FaceTime call.
06:01So they all had iPhones like set up to their laptops, whereas I had like an actual machine,
06:06almost like a little contraption that was holding an iPhone.
06:12And so rather than just holding a phone as if it was like on FaceTime, I actually had
06:16to like hear in the DOP was setting me up with the right framing.
06:20And I was actually having to hold something in front of me to kind of get the right angle.
06:24So there was like so much going on.
06:26It wasn't just about like performance and being in the moment, which usually is what it's
06:31about.
06:31It's usually about like a director and the whole crew kind of give you what you need in order
06:37to just like be in the scene.
06:39Whereas this was like 10 things going on at once and it was like you could give the best
06:43performance ever, but like the signal would drop and so you have to start again or like
06:49your angle wasn't quite in the right way.
06:51And like, it was a lot about that.
06:53But I think like in a way that added to it, you know, there was like, because in the film,
06:57there's just such a sense of pace and improv as well.
07:01And I think like those elements kind of added to the chaotic nature.
07:05And I love, I love making stuff in like a more bootleg way in a way that kind of challenges
07:12the status quo and is a bit more messy.
07:15Like it feels more like the 90s or 2000s films that I grew up on, you know, like I'm so
07:20into
07:21that and handheld stuff and, you know, things that aren't as formulaic as they are today,
07:27you know, so I loved it.
07:29Stop going back in there.
07:31I'm so f***ing stupid.
07:32No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not, you're not.
07:34Okay, we just, all right, where's, where's the fire alarm?
07:39Sit, find me the fire alarm now.
07:40Try to have a look at this all f***ing automated.
07:43It's all automated, we can't control it.
07:46Okay, the kitchen, the kitchen, is it empty?
07:48Yeah, yeah, go there, yeah.
07:49Okay, get her there, get her there.
07:52What is so close?
07:54So, you basically just scrunch up a bit of tinfoil and spray the microwave for deodorant.
08:00All right, go ahead and call.
08:03What?
08:04Why is she wasting time with the car?
08:09What is going on?
08:10Yeah, I think, I think pretty similar.
08:12Like at first, it obviously feels really quite strange, but it's crazy how quickly you kind
08:17of get used to it.
08:19And kind of, yeah, a few scenes in, we kind of, you know, we kind of had our bedrooms kind
08:27of built in these rooms next to each other in real life.
08:32But yeah, by the second scene, I was kind of just used to being in my little cave that
08:37they'd built with kind of SID LED lights and all that kind of stuff.
08:41But I was even, I was even just kind of like sucking on my vape in between scenes.
08:46And, you know, I don't even vape.
08:48So, yeah, I guess I very quickly kind of got into character.
08:53Ronan, the director, was really kind of liberal at times with the script.
08:59So, he'd kind of let us improvise a lot.
09:03And by the time I'd had a few days in character and a bit of rehearsal as well, yeah, those
09:08kind of little moments sort of came quite naturally, I think.
09:11And, you know, I guess what I'm thinking is we sort of built up inside jokes almost as
09:19characters, as actors, whether that's something specific or just a general kind of chemistry,
09:25like maybe I'd look at Georgie at one point and we'd kind of be, you know, smirking to
09:30each other about something that had happened in the scene before, maybe even off camera.
09:35So, that kind of helped with the chemistry, I think.
09:37And then I could kind of insert little digs or, you know, bits of banter accordingly,
09:44I suppose.
09:45OK, check the car for aerosols.
09:46Grab them all and spray them inside the microwave.
09:49Let a piece of metal in there, set it for 30 seconds and then run.
09:52Kyle, what the f***?
09:53I've got to be serious.
09:54Just do it, OK?
09:55Kyle, she can't do that.
09:56Just keep going.
10:00All right, have you done it?
10:01Literally nearly all the time.
10:02Did you do it?
10:02Alex!
10:11OK, did you do it?
10:16CCT, come on.
10:18Alex!
10:18But there is a loyalty.
10:19That's the thing.
10:20There's a loyalty among all these people.
10:22Even when they do bad things, you know, you come back to that.
10:25And it's all about those details.
10:27And I think, Ronan, a lot of the characters, you know, I know they were together, like,
10:31in the shooting area, in different rooms, per se.
10:34But can you talk about finding sort of that camaraderie, finding that pace, if you will?
10:39Yeah, I think we're very lucky, I guess, with, like, James and all the rest of the cast just got
10:43on really well.
10:44And the film did feel like a weird little summer camp where we went up to this old, abandoned hotel
10:49and built these bedrooms.
10:50And then these guys just really captured the characters.
10:54And I think the good thing about even, like, people like James, when we were kind of referencing people, we
10:59were kind of referencing the friends we know gaming.
11:02So, like, we know, like, the trolley types that are kind of, like, main goal is just annoying people.
11:07We know the people that would play this game, the people that would play that game.
11:11So, there was, like, a massive cultural reference for us.
11:13And, you know, one of the big goals of this film was to kind of capture that subculture of gaming
11:18and hacking in an authentic way, in the way that, like, I grew up PC gaming.
11:22And, you know, the way the kind of mainstream media kind of predicts hackers can be a bit cringy and
11:28a bit out of touch in the way of not every hacker has a black hood and an anonymous mask
11:34and types like this.
11:35And, you know, the black and green text that we all know so well.
11:39So, this film was really more about the kind of people I kind of met in kind of gaming circles
11:43that were kind of into a bit of hacking, but also in a bit of a playful way.
11:47It was a bit of, like, a, you know, teenage naivety to it all.
11:52And I think that is interesting, like, the crimes these kids in our film and the kids in reality do
11:58commit.
11:58It takes, there's, like, a buffer zone for, like, actually the FBI coming in and kicking their doors down because,
12:05you know, the responsibilities on the internet, like, it's not instant.
12:08There is, like, a moment in time where you can do these crazy things and I can steal a hundred
12:13million from you.
12:14And it doesn't actually feel like I'm stealing that amount of money.
12:20Now I'm offering you a lifeline.
12:25You can spend millions on security, but at the end of the day, people are stupid.
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